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		<title>By: Bill Gatliff</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/how-did-things-get-so-screwed-up/#comment-337040</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gatliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jared:

Please, PLEASE keep up the faith and good work.  Actual facts are needed now more than ever, along with the ability to explain them to us.

I recently read &quot;The Leader&#039;s Guide to Storytelling: Mastering the Art and Discipline of Business Narrative&quot;, by Stephen Denning.  Changed my life.  I suggest you do likewise, because it would provide essential tools for helping us all get re-focused on what matters.

Case in point: I don&#039;t understand why the D&#039;s don&#039;t just come out with clarity and say that the R&#039;s numbers don&#039;t work, vouchers won&#039;t work, and so on.  We all love that Clinton can speak to the common man, but if a whole bunch more people don&#039;t learn to do likewise then we&#039;re sunk.

In particular, I don&#039;t see why Obama doesn&#039;t just openly admit that the reason he didn&#039;t make the progress he wanted to the last four years is because the R&#039;s made stopping his re-election more important than serving their country.

It really is that simple.  The time for flowery prose is over.  Get pithy already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared:</p>
<p>Please, PLEASE keep up the faith and good work.  Actual facts are needed now more than ever, along with the ability to explain them to us.</p>
<p>I recently read &#8220;The Leader&#8217;s Guide to Storytelling: Mastering the Art and Discipline of Business Narrative&#8221;, by Stephen Denning.  Changed my life.  I suggest you do likewise, because it would provide essential tools for helping us all get re-focused on what matters.</p>
<p>Case in point: I don&#8217;t understand why the D&#8217;s don&#8217;t just come out with clarity and say that the R&#8217;s numbers don&#8217;t work, vouchers won&#8217;t work, and so on.  We all love that Clinton can speak to the common man, but if a whole bunch more people don&#8217;t learn to do likewise then we&#8217;re sunk.</p>
<p>In particular, I don&#8217;t see why Obama doesn&#8217;t just openly admit that the reason he didn&#8217;t make the progress he wanted to the last four years is because the R&#8217;s made stopping his re-election more important than serving their country.</p>
<p>It really is that simple.  The time for flowery prose is over.  Get pithy already.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/how-did-things-get-so-screwed-up/#comment-331448</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 08:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe Firestone commented on this post at New Economic Perspectives and I saw that comment in a cross-post at corrente.  As a progressive, I seldom visit sites of Establishment liberals.  Too much cognitive dissonance.  Many of us no longer accept the rationale of voting for the lesser evil, perhaps because we see Romney and Obama, the Democrats and Republicans, not as greater and lesser but rather complementary evils.  If Romney or Obama is elected, we in the 99% are screwed.  For most Americans there has been no recovery.  What gains there have been have gone to the 1%.  Job creation under Obama has been fairly poor as has been the quality of the jobs created.  Spare me the lines about Obama being hamstrung.  The Democrats could have done away with the filibuster at the beginning of the 2009 session by simple majority vote.  Obama could have pressed for Medicare for All but he opted for the corporate sellout of Obamacare instead.  He needed no acts of Congress to prosecute Bush era torturers or fraud and looting on Wall Street.  We on the progressive side are not factless.  We have been chronicling and documenting the convergence of the two parties for years.  I am not here to change anyone&#039;s mind.  I do not expect in so brief a space or at such a time to convert anyone to anything.  I am here to say that there is life after the two parties and also the solutions and analysis which both parties so conspicuously lack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Firestone commented on this post at New Economic Perspectives and I saw that comment in a cross-post at corrente.  As a progressive, I seldom visit sites of Establishment liberals.  Too much cognitive dissonance.  Many of us no longer accept the rationale of voting for the lesser evil, perhaps because we see Romney and Obama, the Democrats and Republicans, not as greater and lesser but rather complementary evils.  If Romney or Obama is elected, we in the 99% are screwed.  For most Americans there has been no recovery.  What gains there have been have gone to the 1%.  Job creation under Obama has been fairly poor as has been the quality of the jobs created.  Spare me the lines about Obama being hamstrung.  The Democrats could have done away with the filibuster at the beginning of the 2009 session by simple majority vote.  Obama could have pressed for Medicare for All but he opted for the corporate sellout of Obamacare instead.  He needed no acts of Congress to prosecute Bush era torturers or fraud and looting on Wall Street.  We on the progressive side are not factless.  We have been chronicling and documenting the convergence of the two parties for years.  I am not here to change anyone&#8217;s mind.  I do not expect in so brief a space or at such a time to convert anyone to anything.  I am here to say that there is life after the two parties and also the solutions and analysis which both parties so conspicuously lack.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wyman</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/how-did-things-get-so-screwed-up/#comment-330496</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People generally understand the rules of household and business economics such as: &quot;You can&#039;t borrow your way out of debt.&quot; But, they don&#039;t understand much about national economics. So, we&#039;ve got to start teaching them easy to understand and remember principles such as:

&quot;When the people are saving, the government must spend.
When the people are spending, the government must save.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People generally understand the rules of household and business economics such as: &#8220;You can&#8217;t borrow your way out of debt.&#8221; But, they don&#8217;t understand much about national economics. So, we&#8217;ve got to start teaching them easy to understand and remember principles such as:</p>
<p>&#8220;When the people are saving, the government must spend.<br />
When the people are spending, the government must save.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cary King</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/how-did-things-get-so-screwed-up/#comment-329361</link>
		<dc:creator>Cary King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 01:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jared,

It seems to me at this time that this may be the best, most important post ever.

&quot;How did we devolve to a country where someone like this can just assert things with virtually no backup from reality and not only be taken seriously....?&quot;

Indeed.

My theory is that those that understand the real effects of trickle-down were smug and silent for too long.

The public has come to believe that tax cuts solve every economics problem.  And, the public has come to believe that government is unable to solve anything, because for the past 32 years government has been unable to manage itself with adequate funding.  Name one major government accomplishment besides war since Reagan - one bridge, one large anything?  

Warren G. Bennis writes that, &quot;Leadership is the capacity to translate vision into reality.&quot;

Thirty-two years of Republican Party small ball.

&quot;Where there is no vision, the people perish.&quot; 
- Proverbs 29:18]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared,</p>
<p>It seems to me at this time that this may be the best, most important post ever.</p>
<p>&#8220;How did we devolve to a country where someone like this can just assert things with virtually no backup from reality and not only be taken seriously&#8230;.?&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed.</p>
<p>My theory is that those that understand the real effects of trickle-down were smug and silent for too long.</p>
<p>The public has come to believe that tax cuts solve every economics problem.  And, the public has come to believe that government is unable to solve anything, because for the past 32 years government has been unable to manage itself with adequate funding.  Name one major government accomplishment besides war since Reagan &#8211; one bridge, one large anything?  </p>
<p>Warren G. Bennis writes that, &#8220;Leadership is the capacity to translate vision into reality.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thirty-two years of Republican Party small ball.</p>
<p>&#8220;Where there is no vision, the people perish.&#8221;<br />
- Proverbs 29:18</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Walling</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/how-did-things-get-so-screwed-up/#comment-328556</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Walling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 05:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JB:  All is lost should a few, a very few, good people do not do anything to prevent this loss! I for one have found sanity from reading yours, Dr. Krugman, Ezra, Dr Riech, etc..... Fear and ignorance can only thrive if allowed to do so .... unfortunately many people in our country are affected by these maladies!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB:  All is lost should a few, a very few, good people do not do anything to prevent this loss! I for one have found sanity from reading yours, Dr. Krugman, Ezra, Dr Riech, etc&#8230;.. Fear and ignorance can only thrive if allowed to do so &#8230;. unfortunately many people in our country are affected by these maladies!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Pauley</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/how-did-things-get-so-screwed-up/#comment-328486</link>
		<dc:creator>Pauley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris G.,

Exactly! And we all should have known, when Reagan ran for and won the governorship of California, just what he was doing and how. It was clear to me that he would not answer straight any question of substance, but pander in jokesy-folksy-talk while talking circles around the truth. His strangling of California&#039;s school system, public works and services were clearly aligned with Goldwater&#039;s ideology, which was rejected in &#039;64. But Reagan slipped it to us after all by disguising the firebrand rhetoric and hatred of an open and civil society of equality and progressive principles. That actor signed on to portray a false image while fronting for the Birchers who spawned today&#039;s plutocrats. And, there you go again...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris G.,</p>
<p>Exactly! And we all should have known, when Reagan ran for and won the governorship of California, just what he was doing and how. It was clear to me that he would not answer straight any question of substance, but pander in jokesy-folksy-talk while talking circles around the truth. His strangling of California&#8217;s school system, public works and services were clearly aligned with Goldwater&#8217;s ideology, which was rejected in &#8217;64. But Reagan slipped it to us after all by disguising the firebrand rhetoric and hatred of an open and civil society of equality and progressive principles. That actor signed on to portray a false image while fronting for the Birchers who spawned today&#8217;s plutocrats. And, there you go again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fausto412</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/how-did-things-get-so-screwed-up/#comment-328471</link>
		<dc:creator>fausto412</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreeing with your post as I feel much the same away. I also feel you are right about the audience here. When discussing economics and politics fact based analysis and discussion is hard to find and when you come into the table with your Krugman, Wonkbook, OTE knowledge people refuse to believe you or just dismiss you. When did dismissing someone because he disagreed with you become ok?(When the right created an alternate reality?)

I do hate the &quot;both sides&quot; nonsense. It shows intellectual laziness, lack of knowledge about what is being discussed. Example: The Obama Admin lied about the mandate in HCR reform...they in public called it anything but a Tax. Had they done that this issue wouldn&#039;t have made it to the Supreme Court but not because it is within the Governments rights to do. It would not make it to the Supreme Court because Americans are easily swayed by the worth Tax and the legislation would not have passed. Now is that politically necessary lying to be put on the same level as Death Panels? If you can&#039;t appreciate the difference then you aren&#039;t informed enough on the subject to pass judgement. If we had a well functioning media both Death Panels and the word Tax wouldn&#039;t matter in that debate but if we talk &quot;if&quot; scenarios I could go for an hour easily. If the GOP is so willing to lie it would be idiotic for the Democrats to go 100% honest in making their arguments...it would be disarming yourself. Policy examination and fact based reporting and commentating is needed here to restore some credibility and honor to our political discourse. Instead of spending money on stars the news needs to spend money on true subject matter experts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreeing with your post as I feel much the same away. I also feel you are right about the audience here. When discussing economics and politics fact based analysis and discussion is hard to find and when you come into the table with your Krugman, Wonkbook, OTE knowledge people refuse to believe you or just dismiss you. When did dismissing someone because he disagreed with you become ok?(When the right created an alternate reality?)</p>
<p>I do hate the &#8220;both sides&#8221; nonsense. It shows intellectual laziness, lack of knowledge about what is being discussed. Example: The Obama Admin lied about the mandate in HCR reform&#8230;they in public called it anything but a Tax. Had they done that this issue wouldn&#8217;t have made it to the Supreme Court but not because it is within the Governments rights to do. It would not make it to the Supreme Court because Americans are easily swayed by the worth Tax and the legislation would not have passed. Now is that politically necessary lying to be put on the same level as Death Panels? If you can&#8217;t appreciate the difference then you aren&#8217;t informed enough on the subject to pass judgement. If we had a well functioning media both Death Panels and the word Tax wouldn&#8217;t matter in that debate but if we talk &#8220;if&#8221; scenarios I could go for an hour easily. If the GOP is so willing to lie it would be idiotic for the Democrats to go 100% honest in making their arguments&#8230;it would be disarming yourself. Policy examination and fact based reporting and commentating is needed here to restore some credibility and honor to our political discourse. Instead of spending money on stars the news needs to spend money on true subject matter experts.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris G</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/how-did-things-get-so-screwed-up/#comment-328051</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;&quot;I’d like to think a bit about the second reason the current moment feels so unsettling: facts, policy analysis, pragmatic compromise, even common sense and simple math seem less relevant in this election cycle than in any in my lifetime.&quot;

Writing about Sarah Palin several years ago, Matt Taibbi commented, &quot;Palin has figured out that ... really all you have to do to win elections in this country [is] flatter middle Americans’ moronic fantasies about themselves.&quot;

You could substitute just about any Republican for &quot;Palin&quot; in the quote above.  You&#039;re right, unfortunately.  Facts, analysis, etc. don&#039;t mean jack to significant fraction of the electorate.  Flattering people&#039;s moronic fantasies however appears to be a winner though year in, year out.  

This may sound a little loopy but I blame Reagan for the current state of affairs.  (No, wait!  I&#039;m serious! Hear me out!)  Reagan drove a fundamental shift in how the general population view government.  He was the first high ranking politician to state the &quot;Government is the problem.&quot; and have it stick.  That&#039;s a fundamentally different outlook from saying, &quot;Government isn&#039;t working and we need to fix it.  In order to do that we need to make it smaller.&quot;  (Which could be a plausible and Republican argument in some circumstances.)  As an elected official, if you&#039;ve dismissed the need to make Government function effectively for the citizens then flattering people&#039;s moronic fantasies of themselves is probably as good a use of your time as any.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&#8221;I’d like to think a bit about the second reason the current moment feels so unsettling: facts, policy analysis, pragmatic compromise, even common sense and simple math seem less relevant in this election cycle than in any in my lifetime.&#8221;</p>
<p>Writing about Sarah Palin several years ago, Matt Taibbi commented, &#8220;Palin has figured out that &#8230; really all you have to do to win elections in this country [is] flatter middle Americans’ moronic fantasies about themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>You could substitute just about any Republican for &#8220;Palin&#8221; in the quote above.  You&#8217;re right, unfortunately.  Facts, analysis, etc. don&#8217;t mean jack to significant fraction of the electorate.  Flattering people&#8217;s moronic fantasies however appears to be a winner though year in, year out.  </p>
<p>This may sound a little loopy but I blame Reagan for the current state of affairs.  (No, wait!  I&#8217;m serious! Hear me out!)  Reagan drove a fundamental shift in how the general population view government.  He was the first high ranking politician to state the &#8220;Government is the problem.&#8221; and have it stick.  That&#8217;s a fundamentally different outlook from saying, &#8220;Government isn&#8217;t working and we need to fix it.  In order to do that we need to make it smaller.&#8221;  (Which could be a plausible and Republican argument in some circumstances.)  As an elected official, if you&#8217;ve dismissed the need to make Government function effectively for the citizens then flattering people&#8217;s moronic fantasies of themselves is probably as good a use of your time as any.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Carey</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/how-did-things-get-so-screwed-up/#comment-328031</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Carey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jared,

Thanks for writing this.  More than the 62 or so emails I get from Democratic causes every day, it is thoughtful pieces like this that might make me make just 1 more contribution to the cause.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared,</p>
<p>Thanks for writing this.  More than the 62 or so emails I get from Democratic causes every day, it is thoughtful pieces like this that might make me make just 1 more contribution to the cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Horst Lehrheuer</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/how-did-things-get-so-screwed-up/#comment-328013</link>
		<dc:creator>Horst Lehrheuer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is what I shared also with some of my Facebook friends wrt Jared Bernstein&#039;s commentary above: 
&quot;I happen to think that a lot of Bernstein&#039;s criticism is correct! Here is one of my non-political reasons for this: any proponent, like Romney/Ryan (btw - an Ayn Rand and objectivism fan) and many others (also among Democrats) who still believe and act upon the ability of simple causal idealized models such as the &quot;free market&quot; (with e.g. &quot;perfect competition and information,&quot; which also cannot provide any useful predictions) will lead, if elected, this country and others for that matter into a future for which we all will have to pay the price. Inequality will very likely keep on rising, among other issues. - Even more broadly speaking, it is astonishing how much two-hundred-plus year old thinking, including Newtonian (mechanistic) and Cartesian (dualistic) and linear thinking among others, still dominates the thinking and acting of our political, corporate and academic decision makers and thinkers today. Of course, why should we then expect the majority of the electorate and citizens around the world to do any better? Simply speaking: &quot;We get what we accept or elect&quot; and for that we cannot abdicate our responsibility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is what I shared also with some of my Facebook friends wrt Jared Bernstein&#8217;s commentary above:<br />
&#8220;I happen to think that a lot of Bernstein&#8217;s criticism is correct! Here is one of my non-political reasons for this: any proponent, like Romney/Ryan (btw &#8211; an Ayn Rand and objectivism fan) and many others (also among Democrats) who still believe and act upon the ability of simple causal idealized models such as the &#8220;free market&#8221; (with e.g. &#8220;perfect competition and information,&#8221; which also cannot provide any useful predictions) will lead, if elected, this country and others for that matter into a future for which we all will have to pay the price. Inequality will very likely keep on rising, among other issues. &#8211; Even more broadly speaking, it is astonishing how much two-hundred-plus year old thinking, including Newtonian (mechanistic) and Cartesian (dualistic) and linear thinking among others, still dominates the thinking and acting of our political, corporate and academic decision makers and thinkers today. Of course, why should we then expect the majority of the electorate and citizens around the world to do any better? Simply speaking: &#8220;We get what we accept or elect&#8221; and for that we cannot abdicate our responsibility.</p>
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