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		<title>By: Doug T.</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/remember-weve-already-cut-a-bunch-of-spending/#comment-344740</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Consult a calendar.  Norquist would have attended that school when it was 20+ years old.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consult a calendar.  Norquist would have attended that school when it was 20+ years old.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Donaldson</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/remember-weve-already-cut-a-bunch-of-spending/#comment-327337</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Donaldson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grover was a student in the 70s at Weston High, a public school that obviously received immense support from taxpayers, as Wikipedia notes:

&quot;This new high school, which was located near Weston Town Center by the current Weston Public Library, Country &amp; Woodland Elementary Schools, was renowned as the &quot;architectural achievement of the century&quot; by the Boston Herald when it opened in January 1950. The nation&#039;s first million-dollar public building, Weston High School offered resources and technologies never before seen in a public school. Revolutionary architecture and layout of the school allowed for unprecedented new teaching and class organization methods. The building remains in active service as the Field Elementary School, though plans are underway to tear it down and replace it with a new complex on the same lot.
 
&quot;In 1961, the current Weston High School was built as one of the most expensive schools in the nation at $8,930,000 (1961 dollars). This building is the fifth public high school in Weston and is designed to be in active service far longer than many contemporary schools, thanks to constant renovation and a high-quality initial design and build.&quot;

Since Grover&#039;s dad was a vp of Polaroid, I&#039;m somewhat  surprised he didn&#039;t attend private school, but probably the local public school, supported by taxpayers, was a better place to go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grover was a student in the 70s at Weston High, a public school that obviously received immense support from taxpayers, as Wikipedia notes:</p>
<p>&#8220;This new high school, which was located near Weston Town Center by the current Weston Public Library, Country &amp; Woodland Elementary Schools, was renowned as the &#8220;architectural achievement of the century&#8221; by the Boston Herald when it opened in January 1950. The nation&#8217;s first million-dollar public building, Weston High School offered resources and technologies never before seen in a public school. Revolutionary architecture and layout of the school allowed for unprecedented new teaching and class organization methods. The building remains in active service as the Field Elementary School, though plans are underway to tear it down and replace it with a new complex on the same lot.</p>
<p>&#8220;In 1961, the current Weston High School was built as one of the most expensive schools in the nation at $8,930,000 (1961 dollars). This building is the fifth public high school in Weston and is designed to be in active service far longer than many contemporary schools, thanks to constant renovation and a high-quality initial design and build.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since Grover&#8217;s dad was a vp of Polaroid, I&#8217;m somewhat  surprised he didn&#8217;t attend private school, but probably the local public school, supported by taxpayers, was a better place to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wyman</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/remember-weve-already-cut-a-bunch-of-spending/#comment-326237</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Norquist was not phased by the CEOs&#039; letter. He spoke about it yesterday at one of Patricia Duff&#039;s &quot;Common Good&quot; luncheons in New York City and pointed out that while the CEO&#039;s had called for &quot;increased revenues&quot; they did not specifically call for &quot;increased taxes.&quot; Norquist claimed was that he had no objection to increased &quot;revenues,&quot; which, in his opinion, could be achieved through lower taxes, decreased spending and the increased growth that would result. 

As wrong-headed as ever, Norquist said he sees the CEOs&#039; &quot;careful choice of wording&quot; as support for his position, not as opposition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norquist was not phased by the CEOs&#8217; letter. He spoke about it yesterday at one of Patricia Duff&#8217;s &#8220;Common Good&#8221; luncheons in New York City and pointed out that while the CEO&#8217;s had called for &#8220;increased revenues&#8221; they did not specifically call for &#8220;increased taxes.&#8221; Norquist claimed was that he had no objection to increased &#8220;revenues,&#8221; which, in his opinion, could be achieved through lower taxes, decreased spending and the increased growth that would result. </p>
<p>As wrong-headed as ever, Norquist said he sees the CEOs&#8217; &#8220;careful choice of wording&#8221; as support for his position, not as opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Bernstein</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/remember-weve-already-cut-a-bunch-of-spending/#comment-326212</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly right: http://www.offthechartsblog.org/spending-cuts-in-deficit-reduction-deals-prove-far-stickier-than-some-claim/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly right: <a href="http://www.offthechartsblog.org/spending-cuts-in-deficit-reduction-deals-prove-far-stickier-than-some-claim/" rel="nofollow">http://www.offthechartsblog.org/spending-cuts-in-deficit-reduction-deals-prove-far-stickier-than-some-claim/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cmon</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/remember-weve-already-cut-a-bunch-of-spending/#comment-326208</link>
		<dc:creator>Cmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“When bipartisan deals are struck promising to cut spending and raise taxes, the spending cuts don’t materialize but the tax hikes do.”

It&#039;s amazing that people allow Grover and many other conservatives to continue to get away with this lie. It&#039;s never been true and especially not in the 90s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“When bipartisan deals are struck promising to cut spending and raise taxes, the spending cuts don’t materialize but the tax hikes do.”</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing that people allow Grover and many other conservatives to continue to get away with this lie. It&#8217;s never been true and especially not in the 90s.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gatliff</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/remember-weve-already-cut-a-bunch-of-spending/#comment-325543</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gatliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somehow, our politicians are so clever that they decouple the tax hikes from the spending cuts and/or tax cuts from spending hikes, so that they can vote on one but not the other.  Why can we not accept that approving one is an explicit obligation for the other?  All of this budget hand-waving really needs to stop.

We let them do it, of course.  They pander to us, and we have tolerated it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow, our politicians are so clever that they decouple the tax hikes from the spending cuts and/or tax cuts from spending hikes, so that they can vote on one but not the other.  Why can we not accept that approving one is an explicit obligation for the other?  All of this budget hand-waving really needs to stop.</p>
<p>We let them do it, of course.  They pander to us, and we have tolerated it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Bernstein</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/remember-weve-already-cut-a-bunch-of-spending/#comment-325454</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hear you--I&#039;m not a big BS [sic] booster.  I&#039;m especially critical of the large Soc Sec cuts you note.  But I tend to reference it as the coin of the realm, particularly as too many people don&#039;t even know what&#039;s really in there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you&#8211;I&#8217;m not a big BS [sic] booster.  I&#8217;m especially critical of the large Soc Sec cuts you note.  But I tend to reference it as the coin of the realm, particularly as too many people don&#8217;t even know what&#8217;s really in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Donaldson</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/remember-weve-already-cut-a-bunch-of-spending/#comment-325431</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Donaldson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your last two posts have mentioned Bowles-Simpson - a plan proposed by the two co-chairs of a commission that could not reach agreement under the terms of its creators.

There are other plans, even a Progressive one to reduce the deficit, which you might examine:
http://schakowsky.house.gov/images/stories/1202_Schakowsky_Deficit_Reduction_Plan.pdf

This manages the goal without destroying the elderly middle class of tomorrow in the name of tax &quot;fairness&quot; for the mighty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your last two posts have mentioned Bowles-Simpson &#8211; a plan proposed by the two co-chairs of a commission that could not reach agreement under the terms of its creators.</p>
<p>There are other plans, even a Progressive one to reduce the deficit, which you might examine:<br />
<a href="http://schakowsky.house.gov/images/stories/1202_Schakowsky_Deficit_Reduction_Plan.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://schakowsky.house.gov/images/stories/1202_Schakowsky_Deficit_Reduction_Plan.pdf</a></p>
<p>This manages the goal without destroying the elderly middle class of tomorrow in the name of tax &#8220;fairness&#8221; for the mighty.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Bernstein</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/remember-weve-already-cut-a-bunch-of-spending/#comment-325355</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 05:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree!</p>
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		<title>By: foosion</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/remember-weve-already-cut-a-bunch-of-spending/#comment-325343</link>
		<dc:creator>foosion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 05:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The WSJ article is for subscribers only and I don&#039;t subscribe.

If we do nothing, the deficit gets cut by a substantial amount, as the scheduled spending cuts occur and the Bush tax cuts expire.  As far as I can tell, all of the deficit reduction plans under discussion cut the deficit far less than has already been baked in.  Most of current discussion is an attempt to obscure this fact, usually with the goal of avoiding tax increases on the best off and also avoiding cuts to powerful military interests.

Cutting the deficit short term is highly counter-productive, as has been discussed at great length here (and hasn&#039;t penetrated to the political class, the pundit class or the population).  Fiscal cliff means the economy slows, not the deficit increases.  This is another item that doesn&#039;t seem to have penetrated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The WSJ article is for subscribers only and I don&#8217;t subscribe.</p>
<p>If we do nothing, the deficit gets cut by a substantial amount, as the scheduled spending cuts occur and the Bush tax cuts expire.  As far as I can tell, all of the deficit reduction plans under discussion cut the deficit far less than has already been baked in.  Most of current discussion is an attempt to obscure this fact, usually with the goal of avoiding tax increases on the best off and also avoiding cuts to powerful military interests.</p>
<p>Cutting the deficit short term is highly counter-productive, as has been discussed at great length here (and hasn&#8217;t penetrated to the political class, the pundit class or the population).  Fiscal cliff means the economy slows, not the deficit increases.  This is another item that doesn&#8217;t seem to have penetrated.</p>
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