<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Slack Attack!</title>
	<atom:link href="http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/slack-attack/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/slack-attack/</link>
	<description>Facts, Thoughts, and Commentary</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 00:42:16 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	
	<item>
		<title>By: perplexed</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/slack-attack/#comment-22842</link>
		<dc:creator>perplexed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 05:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/?p=734#comment-22842</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[But how do marginal tax rates and wealth concentration map onto this chart? What is the mechanism by which higher incomes from increases in productivity get back to workers? Looks to me like the only routes back to workers are lower prices and the increased demand generated by redistribution through taxes. But why would a monopolist or an oligopoly reduce prices? If you increase monopoly profits and decrease taxes, all of the gains go to savings accounts of the wealthy. If they don&#039;t spend it all and invest a lot overseas, increased income from productivity gains generates income in other countries and increased asset prices of things rentiers like to own.

I think this what Keynes was trying to tell us. The increased income has to get back somehow to those who will increase their spending and thereby increase the income of others. Wealth concentration works against this. It prevents the additional income from getting to those who will increase their spending. Overall income is lower &amp; total capital is lower. But, if you&#039;re a rentier, why should you care what everyone else&#039;s income problems are? 

Has anyone ever refuted Keyne&#039;s explanation of how this works or do they just dislike it because it doesn&#039;t serve their purpose? Maybe we need to change the name of the academic study of economics back to moral philosophy and leave the profitable business of economics called economics; like consulting or public relations, not so much an area of study as profit generating business. This way economists would have to choose which side of this divide they want operate on and the public wouldn&#039;t be so confused. We could even have a separate SIC code for the Supply Side BS Industry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But how do marginal tax rates and wealth concentration map onto this chart? What is the mechanism by which higher incomes from increases in productivity get back to workers? Looks to me like the only routes back to workers are lower prices and the increased demand generated by redistribution through taxes. But why would a monopolist or an oligopoly reduce prices? If you increase monopoly profits and decrease taxes, all of the gains go to savings accounts of the wealthy. If they don&#8217;t spend it all and invest a lot overseas, increased income from productivity gains generates income in other countries and increased asset prices of things rentiers like to own.</p>
<p>I think this what Keynes was trying to tell us. The increased income has to get back somehow to those who will increase their spending and thereby increase the income of others. Wealth concentration works against this. It prevents the additional income from getting to those who will increase their spending. Overall income is lower &amp; total capital is lower. But, if you&#8217;re a rentier, why should you care what everyone else&#8217;s income problems are? </p>
<p>Has anyone ever refuted Keyne&#8217;s explanation of how this works or do they just dislike it because it doesn&#8217;t serve their purpose? Maybe we need to change the name of the academic study of economics back to moral philosophy and leave the profitable business of economics called economics; like consulting or public relations, not so much an area of study as profit generating business. This way economists would have to choose which side of this divide they want operate on and the public wouldn&#8217;t be so confused. We could even have a separate SIC code for the Supply Side BS Industry.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/slack-attack/#comment-19833</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 00:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/?p=734#comment-19833</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jared,
Wow, the rabid Douglas Eeeeeeeeeeeeek-n is still at it. I watched you and he on Rev AL’s show and was sadly less hopeful of anyone on the right having the brain cells to even learn the facts before they speak. I guess this is how it will be until 2012 elections. Well, not that I agree with everything our president has done and I too want to see some more fight in him I can tell you this. I will vote for President Obama again in 2012 and shove my proud vote up the behinds of whoever is running on the right. If we are forced to keep choking on a do-nothing republican congress then I will do my part and vote for the only guy who most of the time does care about this country. If I am to understand the dynamics of the right holding ALL of us their hostages to gain a win, I will not partake in that and cast my vote for Obama.
Thanks Jared for always keeping with the facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jared,<br />
Wow, the rabid Douglas Eeeeeeeeeeeeek-n is still at it. I watched you and he on Rev AL’s show and was sadly less hopeful of anyone on the right having the brain cells to even learn the facts before they speak. I guess this is how it will be until 2012 elections. Well, not that I agree with everything our president has done and I too want to see some more fight in him I can tell you this. I will vote for President Obama again in 2012 and shove my proud vote up the behinds of whoever is running on the right. If we are forced to keep choking on a do-nothing republican congress then I will do my part and vote for the only guy who most of the time does care about this country. If I am to understand the dynamics of the right holding ALL of us their hostages to gain a win, I will not partake in that and cast my vote for Obama.<br />
Thanks Jared for always keeping with the facts.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: arbeidsongeval</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/slack-attack/#comment-7135</link>
		<dc:creator>arbeidsongeval</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/?p=734#comment-7135</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[This is the appropriate blog for anybody who wants to find out about this topic. You understand a lot its virtually onerous to argue with you (not that I actually would need…HaHa). You definitely put a new spin on a subject thats been written about for years. Great stuff, simply great!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the appropriate blog for anybody who wants to find out about this topic. You understand a lot its virtually onerous to argue with you (not that I actually would need…HaHa). You definitely put a new spin on a subject thats been written about for years. Great stuff, simply great!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Misaki</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/slack-attack/#comment-4505</link>
		<dc:creator>Misaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 04:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/?p=734#comment-4505</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Another very significant factor is that families simply ran out of things to spend money on. Increasing productivity for products with a large base of users translated into higher profits, and one of the only ways for that money to leave the wealthy was more service occupations for things not deemed as essential as everyday life. With a lower utility to cost ratio for the average family they have seen less use by the middle class and more by the wealthy and corporations. 

A rise in average wages would be driven not just by scarcity of labour due to low unemployment, but also cost of negotiating for individual wage increases compared to marginal benefit. This may have become especially apparent as more women entered the labour force, with &lt;a href=&quot;http://postcards.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/02/are-women-lousy-negotiators/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some anecdotal evidence&lt;/a&gt; suggesting that lower average wages are due to women simply not trying as hard to obtain wage increases and that they &quot;do not use money to validate themselves.&quot;

Which makes perfect sense given the low marginal utility for money. Addressing unemployment means finding an alternative that is more attractive than, and healthier to the economy than the current idea of predictable income progression: http://pastebin.com/Q86Zhgs9

Furthermore, given that GDP is roughly linear to energy consumption in a given economy, there is no assurance even current median income levels will be sustainable in the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another very significant factor is that families simply ran out of things to spend money on. Increasing productivity for products with a large base of users translated into higher profits, and one of the only ways for that money to leave the wealthy was more service occupations for things not deemed as essential as everyday life. With a lower utility to cost ratio for the average family they have seen less use by the middle class and more by the wealthy and corporations. </p>
<p>A rise in average wages would be driven not just by scarcity of labour due to low unemployment, but also cost of negotiating for individual wage increases compared to marginal benefit. This may have become especially apparent as more women entered the labour force, with <a href="http://postcards.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/02/are-women-lousy-negotiators/" rel="nofollow">some anecdotal evidence</a> suggesting that lower average wages are due to women simply not trying as hard to obtain wage increases and that they &#8220;do not use money to validate themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which makes perfect sense given the low marginal utility for money. Addressing unemployment means finding an alternative that is more attractive than, and healthier to the economy than the current idea of predictable income progression: <a href="http://pastebin.com/Q86Zhgs9" rel="nofollow">http://pastebin.com/Q86Zhgs9</a></p>
<p>Furthermore, given that GDP is roughly linear to energy consumption in a given economy, there is no assurance even current median income levels will be sustainable in the future.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sandwichman</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/slack-attack/#comment-4400</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandwichman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/?p=734#comment-4400</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[urban legend, your suspicions are borne out by Jamie Galbraith&#039;s wonderful &quot;Time to Ditch the NAIRU,&quot; published in the &lt;i&gt;Journal of Economic Perspectives&lt;/i&gt; in 1997. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;This essay presents a brief for no-confidence, in four parts. First, the theoretical case for the natural rate is not compelling. Second, the empirical evidence for a vertical Phillips curve and the associated hypothesis that lowering unemployment past the NAIRU leads to unacceptable acceleration of inflation is weak, and has become much weaker in the past decade. Third, viewed collectively, attempts to estimate the location of the NAIRU have become a professional embarrassment; disagreements remain on too many basic issues. Fourth, adherence to the concept as a guide to policy has major costs and negligible benefits. Conversely, the risks of dropping the natural rate hypothesis are minor, while the benefits from a sustained pursuit of full employment could be substantial.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>urban legend, your suspicions are borne out by Jamie Galbraith&#8217;s wonderful &#8220;Time to Ditch the NAIRU,&#8221; published in the <i>Journal of Economic Perspectives</i> in 1997. </p>
<blockquote><p>This essay presents a brief for no-confidence, in four parts. First, the theoretical case for the natural rate is not compelling. Second, the empirical evidence for a vertical Phillips curve and the associated hypothesis that lowering unemployment past the NAIRU leads to unacceptable acceleration of inflation is weak, and has become much weaker in the past decade. Third, viewed collectively, attempts to estimate the location of the NAIRU have become a professional embarrassment; disagreements remain on too many basic issues. Fourth, adherence to the concept as a guide to policy has major costs and negligible benefits. Conversely, the risks of dropping the natural rate hypothesis are minor, while the benefits from a sustained pursuit of full employment could be substantial.</p></blockquote>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Taryn Hart</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/slack-attack/#comment-4196</link>
		<dc:creator>Taryn Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 01:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/?p=734#comment-4196</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Given the projections for long-term, mass unemployment, does this mean it&#039;s likely to keep getting even worse?  Also, does it mean that business has a disincentive to end mass unemployment?  Does this terrible economy not only help the creditors (and here I&#039;m referring to Paul Krugman on Rentiers), but also business?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the projections for long-term, mass unemployment, does this mean it&#8217;s likely to keep getting even worse?  Also, does it mean that business has a disincentive to end mass unemployment?  Does this terrible economy not only help the creditors (and here I&#8217;m referring to Paul Krugman on Rentiers), but also business?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: urban legend</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/slack-attack/#comment-4165</link>
		<dc:creator>urban legend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 21:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/?p=734#comment-4165</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[From 1949 through 1974, the actual rate of unemployment was generally considerably below the NAIRU. How can it be called a &quot;natural rate&quot; when for 25 years it most decidedly was not the natural rate?

I&#039;ve always suspected the NAIRU is bullcrap -- sure, a theoretical construct that makes sense, but really a self-serving number dreamed up by economists for corporate interests and policy-makers who share an interest in suppressing labor.

Once again: how can it be a &quot;natural rate&quot; when it&#039;s wrong over a 25 year period?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From 1949 through 1974, the actual rate of unemployment was generally considerably below the NAIRU. How can it be called a &#8220;natural rate&#8221; when for 25 years it most decidedly was not the natural rate?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always suspected the NAIRU is bullcrap &#8212; sure, a theoretical construct that makes sense, but really a self-serving number dreamed up by economists for corporate interests and policy-makers who share an interest in suppressing labor.</p>
<p>Once again: how can it be a &#8220;natural rate&#8221; when it&#8217;s wrong over a 25 year period?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Th</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/slack-attack/#comment-4103</link>
		<dc:creator>Th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/?p=734#comment-4103</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[When European countries thought they would have double digit unemployment forever in the 70&#039;s, work sharing was one of the correctives tried. Unemployment rates did come down over time and we even got to where the French had a higher GDP per hour worked than the US in 2007. I don&#039;t know the ins and outs of their experience, but if it worked there, I would certainly try it here. 

As our natural resource wealth extraction per person has come more in line with European countries, our economies have become more similar. A wise man learns from others&#039; mistakes; a fool, not from his own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When European countries thought they would have double digit unemployment forever in the 70&#8242;s, work sharing was one of the correctives tried. Unemployment rates did come down over time and we even got to where the French had a higher GDP per hour worked than the US in 2007. I don&#8217;t know the ins and outs of their experience, but if it worked there, I would certainly try it here. </p>
<p>As our natural resource wealth extraction per person has come more in line with European countries, our economies have become more similar. A wise man learns from others&#8217; mistakes; a fool, not from his own.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sandwichman</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/slack-attack/#comment-4068</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandwichman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/?p=734#comment-4068</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Jared,

I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on Dean Baker&#039;s report out today, &quot;Work Sharing: The Quick Road Back to Full Employment.&quot;

http://www.cepr.net/documents/publications/work-sharing-2011-06.pdf

Here is the press release for it:

&lt;blockquote&gt;New Report Suggests Work Sharing as Best Means of Preventing Layoffs and Lowering the Unemployment Rate

For Immediate Release: June 23, 2011
Contact: Alan Barber, (202) 293-5380 x115

Washington D.C. - With the unemployment rate at a painfully high 9.1 percent, the majority of Americans list jobs as their number one economic concern. A new report from the Center from Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) suggests that in the current economic climate work sharing may be the most effective way to avoid many layoffs and quickly return the economy to full employment with little additional spending.

“The labor market in the United States is still suffering the effects of the last recession,” said Dean Baker, co-director of CEPR and author of the report. “With the economy operating well below its full capacity, work sharing could be a significant factor in preventing layoffs and lowering the unemployment rate.”

The report, “Work Sharing: the Quick Route Back to Full Employment,” describes a system of work sharing that would give employers an incentive to keep workers on their payrolls with shorter hours as an alternative to laying them off. This would be attached to the current unemployment insurance system with short-time compensation as an alternative to unemployment compensation.

“We have already seen that work sharing works in the example of Germany,” Baker continued. “While most countries saw their unemployment levels spike during the recession, Germany, which already had a work-sharing system in place, saw its unemployment rate fall 0.4 percentage points below the rate at the start of the downturn.”

Work sharing is a practical, but underutilized, policy option here in the United States. Senator Jack Reed (D-RI) plans to soon reintroduce legislation along these lines to incentivize work sharing domestically.

In addition to most nations in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) having some experience with work sharing, 21 states in the United States already have work sharing programs in place. While recognizing some implementation issues could be addressed to make it more attractive, the report presents hypothetical take-up rates and the likely impact of work sharing on productivity in the United States.

Perhaps due to a misplaced focus on deficits rather than jobs, the U.S. economy remains weak and growth is tepid at best. With threats of a possible double-dip recession and more rounds of layoffs looming, work sharing may very well be the most economically and politically viable means of lowering the unemployment rate.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared,</p>
<p>I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on Dean Baker&#8217;s report out today, &#8220;Work Sharing: The Quick Road Back to Full Employment.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cepr.net/documents/publications/work-sharing-2011-06.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cepr.net/documents/publications/work-sharing-2011-06.pdf</a></p>
<p>Here is the press release for it:</p>
<blockquote><p>New Report Suggests Work Sharing as Best Means of Preventing Layoffs and Lowering the Unemployment Rate</p>
<p>For Immediate Release: June 23, 2011<br />
Contact: Alan Barber, (202) 293-5380 x115</p>
<p>Washington D.C. &#8211; With the unemployment rate at a painfully high 9.1 percent, the majority of Americans list jobs as their number one economic concern. A new report from the Center from Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) suggests that in the current economic climate work sharing may be the most effective way to avoid many layoffs and quickly return the economy to full employment with little additional spending.</p>
<p>“The labor market in the United States is still suffering the effects of the last recession,” said Dean Baker, co-director of CEPR and author of the report. “With the economy operating well below its full capacity, work sharing could be a significant factor in preventing layoffs and lowering the unemployment rate.”</p>
<p>The report, “Work Sharing: the Quick Route Back to Full Employment,” describes a system of work sharing that would give employers an incentive to keep workers on their payrolls with shorter hours as an alternative to laying them off. This would be attached to the current unemployment insurance system with short-time compensation as an alternative to unemployment compensation.</p>
<p>“We have already seen that work sharing works in the example of Germany,” Baker continued. “While most countries saw their unemployment levels spike during the recession, Germany, which already had a work-sharing system in place, saw its unemployment rate fall 0.4 percentage points below the rate at the start of the downturn.”</p>
<p>Work sharing is a practical, but underutilized, policy option here in the United States. Senator Jack Reed (D-RI) plans to soon reintroduce legislation along these lines to incentivize work sharing domestically.</p>
<p>In addition to most nations in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) having some experience with work sharing, 21 states in the United States already have work sharing programs in place. While recognizing some implementation issues could be addressed to make it more attractive, the report presents hypothetical take-up rates and the likely impact of work sharing on productivity in the United States.</p>
<p>Perhaps due to a misplaced focus on deficits rather than jobs, the U.S. economy remains weak and growth is tepid at best. With threats of a possible double-dip recession and more rounds of layoffs looming, work sharing may very well be the most economically and politically viable means of lowering the unemployment rate.
</p></blockquote>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/slack-attack/#comment-4023</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/?p=734#comment-4023</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Is there any way you can post your dataset?  I&#039;d love to play, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way you can post your dataset?  I&#8217;d love to play, too.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
