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		<title>By: Misaki</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/stuck/#comment-167585</link>
		<dc:creator>Misaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 19:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beg

— beg the question
1
: to pass over or ignore a question by assuming it to be established or settled
2
: to elicit a question logically as a reaction or response ]]></description>
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<p>— beg the question<br />
1<br />
: to pass over or ignore a question by assuming it to be established or settled<br />
2<br />
: to elicit a question logically as a reaction or response </p>
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		<title>By: Jared Bernstein</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/stuck/#comment-166048</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 20:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can see flattening in most of the income lines in the graph from the link when they should be going the other way.  Also, see here for shrinking deficits as share of GDP in these countries.
http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/economics/government-deficit_gov-dfct-table-en]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can see flattening in most of the income lines in the graph from the link when they should be going the other way.  Also, see here for shrinking deficits as share of GDP in these countries.<br />
<a href="http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/economics/government-deficit_gov-dfct-table-en" rel="nofollow">http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/economics/government-deficit_gov-dfct-table-en</a></p>
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		<title>By: Th</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/stuck/#comment-165970</link>
		<dc:creator>Th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 18:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right here:http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2012/05/euro-crisis-0]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right here:<a href="http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2012/05/euro-crisis-0" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2012/05/euro-crisis-0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/stuck/#comment-165960</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 18:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jared:  Check out this post:

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2012/05/how-savage-has-european-austerity-been.html

Where is the auserity in Europe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared:  Check out this post:</p>
<p><a href="http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2012/05/how-savage-has-european-austerity-been.html" rel="nofollow">http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2012/05/how-savage-has-european-austerity-been.html</a></p>
<p>Where is the auserity in Europe?</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Bernstein</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/stuck/#comment-165898</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 17:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought it meant &#039;begs for the question to be asked&#039; and not sure I trust wikipedia on this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it meant &#8216;begs for the question to be asked&#8217; and not sure I trust wikipedia on this.</p>
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		<title>By: William Bennett</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/stuck/#comment-165874</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 16:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To &quot;beg&quot; a question means to take something as proven that is not proven but merely asserted. I think you mean &quot;poses&quot; the question. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8220;beg&#8221; a question means to take something as proven that is not proven but merely asserted. I think you mean &#8220;poses&#8221; the question. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question</a></p>
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		<title>By: Th</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/stuck/#comment-165834</link>
		<dc:creator>Th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 15:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s start with Summers and Romer (and you?) going wobbly and not making sure Obama knew that the stimulus did not cover anywhere close to the short-fall. First rule of business is never over-promise and under-deliver. Recovering from that is a real b. Also, recovery starts by admitting you were wrong and when has Obama ever done that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s start with Summers and Romer (and you?) going wobbly and not making sure Obama knew that the stimulus did not cover anywhere close to the short-fall. First rule of business is never over-promise and under-deliver. Recovering from that is a real b. Also, recovery starts by admitting you were wrong and when has Obama ever done that?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/stuck/#comment-165787</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 13:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing changes until Obama stops making policy to assuage the people who hate him.

This is a personality thing.  If you hate Obama, he wants to please you.  It&#039;s a terrible fit for a high executive position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing changes until Obama stops making policy to assuage the people who hate him.</p>
<p>This is a personality thing.  If you hate Obama, he wants to please you.  It&#8217;s a terrible fit for a high executive position.</p>
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		<title>By: perplexed</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/stuck/#comment-165553</link>
		<dc:creator>perplexed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 06:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[–&quot;Vested Interests: Obviously related to the first point above re politics, but here you’ve got wealthy people paying for the think tank research...&quot;

A free and independent press is critical to the operation of a democracy. The loss of ours has greatly magnified the power of what is nothing other than propaganda while we remain oblivious to the fact that our form of government may not be able to function without it (see http://billmoyers.com/episode/full-show-big-money-big-media-big-trouble/)

&quot;it’s not obvious how opposing growth right now helps anyone.&quot;

For the wealthy, life in a stagnant economy is no different than life in a growing one. In fact, its much easier to deal with a powerless labor force than having to compete for scarce talent. Having a safe place to store your wealth until the &quot;storm blows over&quot; is more important than taking a chance on these safe havens becoming less secure just to achieve greater employment, and having inflation erode the real value of your assets is much more troublesome than high unemployment. There&#039;s really no incentive to risk it, how much better could life really get for you if it works anyway?

-Closed Minds

The real pain is concentrated among a powerless minority that has no choice but to endure it based on existing laws. If the costs of an output gap were paid for by the entire population, there would be much greater political will to do something about it. There are no unemployed among the decision makers. If the markets were forced to be open to all participants or the victims to be fully compensated for having the markets closed to them, the pressure to act would be overwhelming. Having the ability to dump the entire cost on a small powerless group creates a disastrous and inequitable incentive structure for those with the power to implement solutions.

We refuse to even discuss alternatives that challenge the existing beneficiaries of our rigged system. While we talk of improvement through competition, protection from competition through monopolies and copyrights is largely what generates the profits for our oligarchs. With the exception of Dean Baker, there appears to be no serious discussion of the wisdom of granting these government windfalls to the wealthy and whether or not any public benefit we get out of proving these freebies cannot be better achieved at a much lower cost. We need to get our oligarchs off the government doles so that they can experience the &quot;dignity of competition&quot; (as Mitt Romney would probably put it).

&quot;We&quot; have nearly $60 trillion in wealth and $15 trillion in annual income. We don&#039;t really have a money problem, we have a money distribution problem. If the &quot;bond vigilantes&quot; become a serious problem down the line we can always implement wealth taxes to pay the debt down and eliminate the problem. &quot;We the People&quot; have the power to solve these kinds of problems just like the kings of old did. We don&#039;t really need to fear a water pistol when we&#039;re holding a machine gun.  

-Currency Manipulation

We generate more demand than any other country in the world and yet we face a demand shortfall from an employment standpoint because others manipulate their currencies so they can solve their problems by exporting to us? Maybe we&#039;d think twice about this if we had to actually compensate the unemployed that have their income reduced to $0 because of this.

Many of our solutions are likely to come from options we refuse to discuss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>–&#8221;Vested Interests: Obviously related to the first point above re politics, but here you’ve got wealthy people paying for the think tank research&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>A free and independent press is critical to the operation of a democracy. The loss of ours has greatly magnified the power of what is nothing other than propaganda while we remain oblivious to the fact that our form of government may not be able to function without it (see <a href="http://billmoyers.com/episode/full-show-big-money-big-media-big-trouble/" rel="nofollow">http://billmoyers.com/episode/full-show-big-money-big-media-big-trouble/</a>)</p>
<p>&#8220;it’s not obvious how opposing growth right now helps anyone.&#8221;</p>
<p>For the wealthy, life in a stagnant economy is no different than life in a growing one. In fact, its much easier to deal with a powerless labor force than having to compete for scarce talent. Having a safe place to store your wealth until the &#8220;storm blows over&#8221; is more important than taking a chance on these safe havens becoming less secure just to achieve greater employment, and having inflation erode the real value of your assets is much more troublesome than high unemployment. There&#8217;s really no incentive to risk it, how much better could life really get for you if it works anyway?</p>
<p>-Closed Minds</p>
<p>The real pain is concentrated among a powerless minority that has no choice but to endure it based on existing laws. If the costs of an output gap were paid for by the entire population, there would be much greater political will to do something about it. There are no unemployed among the decision makers. If the markets were forced to be open to all participants or the victims to be fully compensated for having the markets closed to them, the pressure to act would be overwhelming. Having the ability to dump the entire cost on a small powerless group creates a disastrous and inequitable incentive structure for those with the power to implement solutions.</p>
<p>We refuse to even discuss alternatives that challenge the existing beneficiaries of our rigged system. While we talk of improvement through competition, protection from competition through monopolies and copyrights is largely what generates the profits for our oligarchs. With the exception of Dean Baker, there appears to be no serious discussion of the wisdom of granting these government windfalls to the wealthy and whether or not any public benefit we get out of proving these freebies cannot be better achieved at a much lower cost. We need to get our oligarchs off the government doles so that they can experience the &#8220;dignity of competition&#8221; (as Mitt Romney would probably put it).</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8221; have nearly $60 trillion in wealth and $15 trillion in annual income. We don&#8217;t really have a money problem, we have a money distribution problem. If the &#8220;bond vigilantes&#8221; become a serious problem down the line we can always implement wealth taxes to pay the debt down and eliminate the problem. &#8220;We the People&#8221; have the power to solve these kinds of problems just like the kings of old did. We don&#8217;t really need to fear a water pistol when we&#8217;re holding a machine gun.  </p>
<p>-Currency Manipulation</p>
<p>We generate more demand than any other country in the world and yet we face a demand shortfall from an employment standpoint because others manipulate their currencies so they can solve their problems by exporting to us? Maybe we&#8217;d think twice about this if we had to actually compensate the unemployed that have their income reduced to $0 because of this.</p>
<p>Many of our solutions are likely to come from options we refuse to discuss.</p>
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		<title>By: JCD</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/stuck/#comment-165458</link>
		<dc:creator>JCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 02:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve Randy Waldman had a great post on this, arguing that &quot;[w]e are in a depression because it is our revealed preference, as a polity, not to remedy the problem&quot;.  He says that &quot;the preferences of developed, aging polities — first Japan, now the United States and Europe — are obvious to a dispassionate observer&quot;, and that &quot;[t]heir overwhelming priority is to protect the purchasing power of incumbent creditors&quot;, and &quot;[a]ll other considerations are secondary&quot;.

Very interesting reading: http://www.interfluidity.com/v2/3212.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Randy Waldman had a great post on this, arguing that &#8220;[w]e are in a depression because it is our revealed preference, as a polity, not to remedy the problem&#8221;.  He says that &#8220;the preferences of developed, aging polities — first Japan, now the United States and Europe — are obvious to a dispassionate observer&#8221;, and that &#8220;[t]heir overwhelming priority is to protect the purchasing power of incumbent creditors&#8221;, and &#8220;[a]ll other considerations are secondary&#8221;.</p>
<p>Very interesting reading: <a href="http://www.interfluidity.com/v2/3212.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.interfluidity.com/v2/3212.html</a></p>
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