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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/the-evolutionary-biology-of-obesity/#comment-197419</link>
		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent, long article in the Guardian about the roots of the obesity epidemic in shifts within the food industry back in the Nixon era:http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/11/why-our-food-is-making-us-fat?INTCMP=SRCH

Money quote:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Anne Milton, the [UK] minister for public health, tells me that legislation against the food industry isn&#039;t being ruled out, because of the escalating costs to the NHS. Previous governments have always taken the route of partnership. Why? Because the food industry provides hundreds of thousands of jobs and billions in revenue. It is immensely powerful, and any politician who takes it on does so at their peril. &quot;Let&#039;s get one thing straight,&quot; Milton tells me, however. &quot;I am not scared of the food industry.&quot;

And I believe her, because now, there is something far bigger to be frightened of. Eventually, the point will be reached when the cost to the NHS of obesity, which is now £5bn a year, outweighs the revenue from the UK snacks and confectionery market, which is currently approximately £8bn a year. Then the solution to obesity will become very simple.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

In the US, I&#039;m not aware of a solid, comprehensive summary of the total costs of obesity (lost productivity, higher insurance premiums, enormous profits for diabetes meds, etc, etc).  
Where is our Anne Milton?
She seems to be making a simple, clear argument in favor of public health.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, long article in the Guardian about the roots of the obesity epidemic in shifts within the food industry back in the Nixon era:<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/11/why-our-food-is-making-us-fat?INTCMP=SRCH" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/11/why-our-food-is-making-us-fat?INTCMP=SRCH</a></p>
<p>Money quote:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Anne Milton, the [UK] minister for public health, tells me that legislation against the food industry isn&#8217;t being ruled out, because of the escalating costs to the NHS. Previous governments have always taken the route of partnership. Why? Because the food industry provides hundreds of thousands of jobs and billions in revenue. It is immensely powerful, and any politician who takes it on does so at their peril. &#8220;Let&#8217;s get one thing straight,&#8221; Milton tells me, however. &#8220;I am not scared of the food industry.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I believe her, because now, there is something far bigger to be frightened of. Eventually, the point will be reached when the cost to the NHS of obesity, which is now £5bn a year, outweighs the revenue from the UK snacks and confectionery market, which is currently approximately £8bn a year. Then the solution to obesity will become very simple.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>In the US, I&#8217;m not aware of a solid, comprehensive summary of the total costs of obesity (lost productivity, higher insurance premiums, enormous profits for diabetes meds, etc, etc).<br />
Where is our Anne Milton?<br />
She seems to be making a simple, clear argument in favor of public health.</p>
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		<title>By: DonB</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/the-evolutionary-biology-of-obesity/#comment-197284</link>
		<dc:creator>DonB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try watching this YouTube presentation by Dr. Robert Lustig of UCSF on his hypothesis that the extra sugars in the American diet break each of the two feedback loops that in a less-sugar intense diet help the brain stop wanting to eat (satiety) from the stomach being full and another through leptin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

This link provides further links to a shorter, more recent talk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try watching this YouTube presentation by Dr. Robert Lustig of UCSF on his hypothesis that the extra sugars in the American diet break each of the two feedback loops that in a less-sugar intense diet help the brain stop wanting to eat (satiety) from the stomach being full and another through leptin.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM</a></p>
<p>This link provides further links to a shorter, more recent talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/the-evolutionary-biology-of-obesity/#comment-193333</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On &quot;sweet&quot; fruits found tin the tropics -- 

First, many tropical areas, such as Polynesia, were settled by humans at most 50,000 years ago, which is still relatively recent in evolutionary terms.  Homo sapiens and its forerunners had been evolving in and around Africa for millions of years. 

Second, the sweetness of the fruits may be a recent phenomenon as well, as farmers with sweet tooths (sweet teeth?) learned to cultivate sweeter and sweeter fruit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On &#8220;sweet&#8221; fruits found tin the tropics &#8212; </p>
<p>First, many tropical areas, such as Polynesia, were settled by humans at most 50,000 years ago, which is still relatively recent in evolutionary terms.  Homo sapiens and its forerunners had been evolving in and around Africa for millions of years. </p>
<p>Second, the sweetness of the fruits may be a recent phenomenon as well, as farmers with sweet tooths (sweet teeth?) learned to cultivate sweeter and sweeter fruit.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/the-evolutionary-biology-of-obesity/#comment-193246</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding your footnote, I have observed local people in the tropics who eat very healthy diets, local fruits and vegetables with very little meat and not even too much fish.  In many places, the prevalence of obesity is quite high.  So maybe the hypothesis that naturally sweet fruits also can cause obesity is true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding your footnote, I have observed local people in the tropics who eat very healthy diets, local fruits and vegetables with very little meat and not even too much fish.  In many places, the prevalence of obesity is quite high.  So maybe the hypothesis that naturally sweet fruits also can cause obesity is true.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/the-evolutionary-biology-of-obesity/#comment-193245</link>
		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A good start would be a sugar-sweetened beverage tax.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good start would be a sugar-sweetened beverage tax.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/the-evolutionary-biology-of-obesity/#comment-193242</link>
		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sorry but Fat, Sick and nearly dead was just vegan propaganda riddled with misinformation and half-truths. Sugar is not inherently fattening, it has everything to do with the quantity of consumption. A diet high in fruit will not be overly fattening due to the water volume and fiber content being very satiating. Fruit does not have the hyperpalatability of today&#039;s junk food, making it hard to overeat before the brain receives the chemical messengers letting it know the body is full.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry but Fat, Sick and nearly dead was just vegan propaganda riddled with misinformation and half-truths. Sugar is not inherently fattening, it has everything to do with the quantity of consumption. A diet high in fruit will not be overly fattening due to the water volume and fiber content being very satiating. Fruit does not have the hyperpalatability of today&#8217;s junk food, making it hard to overeat before the brain receives the chemical messengers letting it know the body is full.</p>
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		<title>By: Rima Regas</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/the-evolutionary-biology-of-obesity/#comment-192538</link>
		<dc:creator>Rima Regas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is about the processed sugars. They do bad things to our metabolism. It&#039;s also about where these processed sugars are found. They&#039;re in almost everything that you do not cook or bake from scratch. The new study that was done on HFCS was done in a hospital setting and it didn&#039;t matter how much corn syrup was ingested, the adverse effect was the same. People in the tropics still eat pineapple, heck they export it, but they now also eat foods modified with high fructose corn syrup, and are consequently as prone as we are to obesity. 

I highly recommend you spend a couple of hours watching &quot;Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead.&quot; It&#039;s a documentary and it is available on Netflix.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is about the processed sugars. They do bad things to our metabolism. It&#8217;s also about where these processed sugars are found. They&#8217;re in almost everything that you do not cook or bake from scratch. The new study that was done on HFCS was done in a hospital setting and it didn&#8217;t matter how much corn syrup was ingested, the adverse effect was the same. People in the tropics still eat pineapple, heck they export it, but they now also eat foods modified with high fructose corn syrup, and are consequently as prone as we are to obesity. </p>
<p>I highly recommend you spend a couple of hours watching &#8220;Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead.&#8221; It&#8217;s a documentary and it is available on Netflix.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/the-evolutionary-biology-of-obesity/#comment-192466</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Humans are like basically every other animal... we&#039;ll eat ourselves to death if given the chance.  You can see it in everything from goldfish to dogs.  I remember having to carefully monitor how much food I gave my fish so I didn&#039;t over feed them, and my dog growing up would literally tear open cans of food to eat and got so fat we had to lock away any possible food source.

That being said, I would prefer a ban on beverages over a certain number of calories, and not based on the size.  When I&#039;m walking around the city on a hot summer day, 16 ounces of liquid just doesn&#039;t cut it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humans are like basically every other animal&#8230; we&#8217;ll eat ourselves to death if given the chance.  You can see it in everything from goldfish to dogs.  I remember having to carefully monitor how much food I gave my fish so I didn&#8217;t over feed them, and my dog growing up would literally tear open cans of food to eat and got so fat we had to lock away any possible food source.</p>
<p>That being said, I would prefer a ban on beverages over a certain number of calories, and not based on the size.  When I&#8217;m walking around the city on a hot summer day, 16 ounces of liquid just doesn&#8217;t cut it.</p>
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		<title>By: RMGHicks</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/the-evolutionary-biology-of-obesity/#comment-192402</link>
		<dc:creator>RMGHicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our diet has been so modified over time that the truth is we haven&#039;t eaten like hunter-gatherers for thousands of years.  There is a book about how our agriculture evolved (Pandora&#039;s Seed by Spencer Wells).  A good read if you are curious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our diet has been so modified over time that the truth is we haven&#8217;t eaten like hunter-gatherers for thousands of years.  There is a book about how our agriculture evolved (Pandora&#8217;s Seed by Spencer Wells).  A good read if you are curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike the Mad Biologist</title>
		<link>http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/the-evolutionary-biology-of-obesity/#comment-192388</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike the Mad Biologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sugars in processed foods and those added into liquids are easier to access (think baby food as an extreme example).  The other thing to remember is that ancestral forms of many fruits (those pre-agriculture) are smaller and less sugar rich (you&#039;re competing with other fruits, not Pepsi).  Finally, even in the tropics, wild plants typically have seasonality in their fruit production.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sugars in processed foods and those added into liquids are easier to access (think baby food as an extreme example).  The other thing to remember is that ancestral forms of many fruits (those pre-agriculture) are smaller and less sugar rich (you&#8217;re competing with other fruits, not Pepsi).  Finally, even in the tropics, wild plants typically have seasonality in their fruit production.</p>
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